tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36768584.post3101094752804907761..comments2024-03-03T18:49:34.382-05:00Comments on Omics! Omics!: Oxford Nanopore's Enigmatic Patent LitigationKeith Robisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04765318239070312590noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36768584.post-35005664700706749072017-09-28T10:08:28.954-04:002017-09-28T10:08:28.954-04:00Ding, ding; Round umm.. err I forgot as there has ...Ding, ding; Round umm.. err I forgot as there has been a lot of this now and I'm a bit bored of it to be honest.<br />https://dockets.justia.com/docket/delaware/dedce/1:2017cv01353/63273<br />Can't you just play nice and lets us, your customers, decide which we would prefer to use!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36768584.post-27638998921495995042017-05-02T19:10:41.978-04:002017-05-02T19:10:41.978-04:00Rookie mistake. Everyone fancies themselves a pate...Rookie mistake. Everyone fancies themselves a patent lawyer these days...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36768584.post-2478997279804846602017-05-02T19:09:26.190-04:002017-05-02T19:09:26.190-04:00Anonymous: thanks I think that disqualifies me fr...Anonymous: thanks I think that disqualifies me from any further analyses of this type :-)<br />(Oxford made a change in their release but I accidentally went out to the original electronic announcements).<br /><br />Another disqualifying bit: I'm clueless as to how ONT effectively submarined a European Patent (filing date Jun 22, 2000 - publication date Feb 15, 2012), as I thought their process prevented this.<br /><br />The seven claims are strongly related to the claims covered above, though not the same (and shorter, though digging through all the merged-in patents leads to an even bigger morass)<br /><br />Claim 1 describes evaluating a polymer molecule with linear connected monomers in a liquid, the liquid in contact with "an insulating solid-state substrate" and causing the polymer to traverse a limited volume of the substrate with the polymer's monomers traversing "the limited volume in sequential order" enabling the determination of "polymer molecules characteracteristics".<br /><br />Claim 2 claims an electrode as detector and current at that electrode as the detection metho. Claim 3 covers claims 1 and 2 if the limited volume is a groove in a solid-state substrate and the detector is in the groove.<br /><br />Claim 4 specifies claims 1,2 and 3 applied to DNA or RNA. Claim 5 covers all these claims for a detector which is "a metal electrode located on the substrate surface". Claim 7 places a polymerase adjacent to the detector, whereby the polymerase is used to replicate the molecule being analyzed. Claim 7 gives the polymerase reagents to replicate the molecule.<br /><br />So this would very clearly be targeting PacBio's ZMWs. At the point of publication, PacBio's ZMW sequencing technology was well established for multiple years and being sold, which means someone (someone else!) must sort through the history of this thing to figure out how the priority date was established.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Keith Robisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765318239070312590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36768584.post-2018486402302295242017-05-02T18:21:05.412-04:002017-05-02T18:21:05.412-04:00I hate to break it to you but you have analysed th...I hate to break it to you but you have analysed the wrong set of claims. Those 70 were of the original application. The 7 granted claims of the patent described on ONT's website are found here:<br /><br />https://www.google.com/patents/EP1192453B1?cl=en<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36768584.post-34445544502018760102017-05-02T02:02:46.188-04:002017-05-02T02:02:46.188-04:00All the cases don't really seem to apply to wh...All the cases don't really seem to apply to what each company are actually doing themselves. It is infuriating neither company is protecting their tech (directly I mean) just using patents as weapons to try to block the other.<br /> <br />Stop squabbling and why not just let us decide who we want to use!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com